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	<title>Comments on: The 2012 Question &#8211; millenarian fantasy or future teleology?</title>
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	<description>living on the brink of singularity  - where Art meets Activism, Society meets Social, Magick meets Minds, and Stasis becomes Metamorphosis</description>
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		<title>By: Ubermensch</title>
		<link>http://hardcoredynamic.com/blog/2009/04/21/the-2012-question-millenarian-fantasy-or-future-teleology/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubermensch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the input Bruce - I have updated my post accordingly.  I absolutely appreciate any input, suggestions, and corrections - arrogant or not, though yours certainly was not.

McKenna originally found an end date in November, 2012 but then adjusted it when he became aware of the Maya prophecy. Apparently, the new mapping worked even better than the November date.  See: http://www.hermetic.ch/frt/zerodate.html

As for the picture of the women, that is just my fantasy of the post 2012 future ;-) .  Not sure where its from - grabbed it from flickr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the input Bruce &#8211; I have updated my post accordingly.  I absolutely appreciate any input, suggestions, and corrections &#8211; arrogant or not, though yours certainly was not.</p>
<p>McKenna originally found an end date in November, 2012 but then adjusted it when he became aware of the Maya prophecy. Apparently, the new mapping worked even better than the November date.  See: <a href="http://www.hermetic.ch/frt/zerodate.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hermetic.ch/frt/zerodate.html</a></p>
<p>As for the picture of the women, that is just my fantasy of the post 2012 future ;-) .  Not sure where its from &#8211; grabbed it from flickr.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Fenton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Fenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article especially on the subject of the metaphysical pondering by some in respect to the end-date.

Two corrections might be worth noting however (hey my site needs plenty of corrections I am sure so its not me being arrogant).

&quot;their ancient texts do not elaborate on this end date and all further weight carried to this date, albeit well researched, is purely speculation.&quot;

Please see Tortuguero Monument 6 &amp; the book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel, XXII

&quot;Terrence McKenna also independently posited a December 2012 end date at a point in time when he had no knowledge of the ancient prophecies&quot;

Initially he actually posited an end date much earlier in 2012. This was later &#039;corrected&#039; to December after he became aware of the Maya end-date. Still interesting both were in 2012.

Where was that meeting of slave Leia&#039;s?

Cheers 

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article especially on the subject of the metaphysical pondering by some in respect to the end-date.</p>
<p>Two corrections might be worth noting however (hey my site needs plenty of corrections I am sure so its not me being arrogant).</p>
<p>&#8220;their ancient texts do not elaborate on this end date and all further weight carried to this date, albeit well researched, is purely speculation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please see Tortuguero Monument 6 &amp; the book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel, XXII</p>
<p>&#8220;Terrence McKenna also independently posited a December 2012 end date at a point in time when he had no knowledge of the ancient prophecies&#8221;</p>
<p>Initially he actually posited an end date much earlier in 2012. This was later &#8216;corrected&#8217; to December after he became aware of the Maya end-date. Still interesting both were in 2012.</p>
<p>Where was that meeting of slave Leia&#8217;s?</p>
<p>Cheers </p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Rohaan Solare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohaan Solare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have begun a multi-part series of reports on the Mayan calendar and the 2012  event which may interest you. I found you by way of Bruce Fentons facebook
wall. 
Please have a look and tell me what you think.
Part 1 
http://emergent-culture.com/the-mayan-calendar-and-dec-21-2012-the-facts-the-fiction-and-the-marvels-pt-1/

Part 2.
http://emergent-culture.com/prophecy-demystified-the-non-existant-maya-prophecies-and-the-real-meaning-of-all-prophecies/

Rohaan Solare
www.emergent-culture.com
Making Sense of World and National News
Your Digital News Magazine for the 21st Century</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have begun a multi-part series of reports on the Mayan calendar and the 2012  event which may interest you. I found you by way of Bruce Fentons facebook<br />
wall.<br />
Please have a look and tell me what you think.<br />
Part 1<br />
<a href="http://emergent-culture.com/the-mayan-calendar-and-dec-21-2012-the-facts-the-fiction-and-the-marvels-pt-1/" rel="nofollow">http://emergent-culture.com/the-mayan-calendar-and-dec-21-2012-the-facts-the-fiction-and-the-marvels-pt-1/</a></p>
<p>Part 2.<br />
<a href="http://emergent-culture.com/prophecy-demystified-the-non-existant-maya-prophecies-and-the-real-meaning-of-all-prophecies/" rel="nofollow">http://emergent-culture.com/prophecy-demystified-the-non-existant-maya-prophecies-and-the-real-meaning-of-all-prophecies/</a></p>
<p>Rohaan Solare<br />
<a href="http://www.emergent-culture.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.emergent-culture.com</a><br />
Making Sense of World and National News<br />
Your Digital News Magazine for the 21st Century</p>
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